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		<title>By: tuxgirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This struck me as amazingly interesting, and explained something to me that had escaped me previously. 

Major admission: I enjoy the Twilight books. 

Yes, I know... That&#039;s heresy in the writing world. Sorry. However, I have to say I never cared that much for Bella. I was more interested in the rest of the characters in the story. Looking at it after reading this, I think I understand why. Bella doesn&#039;t have much of an arc. She doesn&#039;t have any internal conflict. Edward, Jacob, Jasper, and so many of the other characters have internal conflict, things they have to move past. They are fighting their internal demons, in some cases more than they are the external things they are dealing with. They are the characters I want to model my characters after...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This struck me as amazingly interesting, and explained something to me that had escaped me previously. </p>
<p>Major admission: I enjoy the Twilight books. </p>
<p>Yes, I know&#8230; That&#8217;s heresy in the writing world. Sorry. However, I have to say I never cared that much for Bella. I was more interested in the rest of the characters in the story. Looking at it after reading this, I think I understand why. Bella doesn&#8217;t have much of an arc. She doesn&#8217;t have any internal conflict. Edward, Jacob, Jasper, and so many of the other characters have internal conflict, things they have to move past. They are fighting their internal demons, in some cases more than they are the external things they are dealing with. They are the characters I want to model my characters after&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary E. Ulrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary E. Ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will never be able to enjoy a movie again. 

I really appreciate when you walk us through the movie with the plot points defined. It seems so simple when you do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never be able to enjoy a movie again. </p>
<p>I really appreciate when you walk us through the movie with the plot points defined. It seems so simple when you do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mary -- great question.  Unlike our protagonists, whom we meet prior to the introduction of the primary conflict and antagonist in a story, we usually meet the bad guy more suddenly (not always, though... a Part 1 character can emerge as the bad guy at Plot Point One).  Which means, their character arc isn&#039;t as dramatic or even necessary as that of the protagonist.

In many stories the antagonist doesn&#039;t experience a character arc at all.  In thrillers and mysteries they usually get captured or killed, in fact.  While the arc of the hero is pretty clear, the arc of the baddie is your call completely.  

More important to arc in an antagonist is their backstory, some glimpse into whatever conspired to bring them to where they are in the story, their values (or lack thereof), their goals, their resentments, their skewed world view.

Watch some movies and read some novels and pay particular attention to the antagonist&#039;s arc... my guess is, you won&#039;t see much of one.  Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mary &#8212; great question.  Unlike our protagonists, whom we meet prior to the introduction of the primary conflict and antagonist in a story, we usually meet the bad guy more suddenly (not always, though&#8230; a Part 1 character can emerge as the bad guy at Plot Point One).  Which means, their character arc isn&#8217;t as dramatic or even necessary as that of the protagonist.</p>
<p>In many stories the antagonist doesn&#8217;t experience a character arc at all.  In thrillers and mysteries they usually get captured or killed, in fact.  While the arc of the hero is pretty clear, the arc of the baddie is your call completely.  </p>
<p>More important to arc in an antagonist is their backstory, some glimpse into whatever conspired to bring them to where they are in the story, their values (or lack thereof), their goals, their resentments, their skewed world view.</p>
<p>Watch some movies and read some novels and pay particular attention to the antagonist&#8217;s arc&#8230; my guess is, you won&#8217;t see much of one.  Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary E. Ulrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary E. Ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering about how to set up the character arcs of villains. 

Is it the same as setting up the characterization of the hero/heroine? It doesn&#039;t work the same for me--not sure why. All suggestions appreciated.

ps. Re: Nora Roberts&#039; trilogies
Janice is right that each book has a hero/heroine romance with the happily ever after for the couple, but... there is always a thread of mystery or adventure that began in the first chapter of the first book and isn&#039;t resolved until the last chapter of the last book. My favorite Roberts&#039; series has multi-generational couples whose stories are interwoven and who all add skills and sacrifice to the resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering about how to set up the character arcs of villains. </p>
<p>Is it the same as setting up the characterization of the hero/heroine? It doesn&#8217;t work the same for me&#8211;not sure why. All suggestions appreciated.</p>
<p>ps. Re: Nora Roberts&#8217; trilogies<br />
Janice is right that each book has a hero/heroine romance with the happily ever after for the couple, but&#8230; there is always a thread of mystery or adventure that began in the first chapter of the first book and isn&#8217;t resolved until the last chapter of the last book. My favorite Roberts&#8217; series has multi-generational couples whose stories are interwoven and who all add skills and sacrifice to the resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: JV</title>
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		<dc:creator>JV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huge Praises for Parts 5 and 6 Char. They are a boon to my rewiting, if I can pull it together. I realize I wrote wrong psychology into my stories which left the backstory weak. The demon as you explain it carries enormous weight that simply refused to come out on my pages. Now I understand why backstory is a touch of color in a painting rather than a backDROP.  My writerly life took on greater possibilities when another author suggested Storyfix.com. 
   You were so right about Langdon in the De Vinci Code. In the Lost Symbol, Brown makes it obvious Langdon has a flaw, then puts it to great use. Sincere thanks. Hi to your wife. I&#039;m one, too. JV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge Praises for Parts 5 and 6 Char. They are a boon to my rewiting, if I can pull it together. I realize I wrote wrong psychology into my stories which left the backstory weak. The demon as you explain it carries enormous weight that simply refused to come out on my pages. Now I understand why backstory is a touch of color in a painting rather than a backDROP.  My writerly life took on greater possibilities when another author suggested Storyfix.com.<br />
   You were so right about Langdon in the De Vinci Code. In the Lost Symbol, Brown makes it obvious Langdon has a flaw, then puts it to great use. Sincere thanks. Hi to your wife. I&#8217;m one, too. JV</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Janice and Larry for your insight.  

ambitious, yes.  its been fun so far, but i&#039;m only halfway through the first draft.  i&#039;m enjoying the process, and feel much more confident about my directions since finding story architecture and the six core competencies.  i&#039;m finding that the more i learn, the more i don&#039;t know, but that&#039;s kinda fun too.

Thanks for another great blog series Larry!  very helpful to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Janice and Larry for your insight.  </p>
<p>ambitious, yes.  its been fun so far, but i&#8217;m only halfway through the first draft.  i&#8217;m enjoying the process, and feel much more confident about my directions since finding story architecture and the six core competencies.  i&#8217;m finding that the more i learn, the more i don&#8217;t know, but that&#8217;s kinda fun too.</p>
<p>Thanks for another great blog series Larry!  very helpful to me</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

Your comments about the character having to learn and thus grow by learning triggered an ah-hah moment for me. I&#039;ve been working hard on learning character transformation-for some reason I&#039;d never really considered learning itself to be the key thing I needed to grasp. Wow. 

So, as a hero wrestles with a conflict and tries to solve it, she&#039;s really learning how to do so, and in the process, changes herself. At least, that&#039;s how I see this now. Does that make sense?

Thanks for another great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>Your comments about the character having to learn and thus grow by learning triggered an ah-hah moment for me. I&#8217;ve been working hard on learning character transformation-for some reason I&#8217;d never really considered learning itself to be the key thing I needed to grasp. Wow. </p>
<p>So, as a hero wrestles with a conflict and tries to solve it, she&#8217;s really learning how to do so, and in the process, changes herself. At least, that&#8217;s how I see this now. Does that make sense?</p>
<p>Thanks for another great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam and Janice -- this series question keeps popping up, and it&#039;s a good one.  Usually it concerns plot, and my answer there is that each book needs to offer a stand-alone story that resolves itself.  What is left hanging, and what bridges each book in the series to the next, is, in fact, character arc.

Within each book you should address one aspect of the hero&#039;s arc and have her/him move toward resolution, while applying that to the meeting of the goal and solving of the problem.  I think the idea is to show them moving forward in confronting a particular demon, perhaps rising to meet the need at hand within a single book but without completely conquering that problem (like, someone sobering up enough in one book to win the day, but in the next book the demon is back).  Each book in the series becomes a demonstration of the hero&#039;s learning curve, but not necessarily the conquering of the demon completely... until the end.

These are all judgment calls, never an exact science.  The more you adhere to all of the criteria for a successful single story/book, without allowing the fact that the series will continue to compromise the story at hand, the better off you&#039;ll be.  As Janice says - and we should always listen to what Janice says, by the way :-) - Harry Potter is the model for this -- each book-specific storyline resolves itself,
leaving the &quot;master plot&quot; (nailing Valdemont) open-ended.
Harry conquers some inner fear within each book, yet the Harry that returns in the next book is still on a path that he hasn&#039;t completely mastered.

Hope this helps.  Sound like you have an ambitious project on your hands... enjoy the ride!   L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam and Janice &#8212; this series question keeps popping up, and it&#8217;s a good one.  Usually it concerns plot, and my answer there is that each book needs to offer a stand-alone story that resolves itself.  What is left hanging, and what bridges each book in the series to the next, is, in fact, character arc.</p>
<p>Within each book you should address one aspect of the hero&#8217;s arc and have her/him move toward resolution, while applying that to the meeting of the goal and solving of the problem.  I think the idea is to show them moving forward in confronting a particular demon, perhaps rising to meet the need at hand within a single book but without completely conquering that problem (like, someone sobering up enough in one book to win the day, but in the next book the demon is back).  Each book in the series becomes a demonstration of the hero&#8217;s learning curve, but not necessarily the conquering of the demon completely&#8230; until the end.</p>
<p>These are all judgment calls, never an exact science.  The more you adhere to all of the criteria for a successful single story/book, without allowing the fact that the series will continue to compromise the story at hand, the better off you&#8217;ll be.  As Janice says &#8211; and we should always listen to what Janice says, by the way <img src='http://storyfix.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; Harry Potter is the model for this &#8212; each book-specific storyline resolves itself,<br />
leaving the &#8220;master plot&#8221; (nailing Valdemont) open-ended.<br />
Harry conquers some inner fear within each book, yet the Harry that returns in the next book is still on a path that he hasn&#8217;t completely mastered.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.  Sound like you have an ambitious project on your hands&#8230; enjoy the ride!   L.</p>
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		<title>By: janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read Adam&#039;s comment and thought of Harry Potter. His demons change as he moves through puberty and deals with external circumstances that change him - deaths, traumas etc - but they all shape his emerging personality and add to the strengths he needs to deal with Voldemort and save two worlds in the finale. He didn&#039;t have that strength at the beginning because he hadn&#039;t learned enough and wasn&#039;t old enough. 

The West Wing was great for enjoying character arcs, too. I loved how the main characters evolved as they dealt with a range of personal and public tragedies, humiliations and triumphs.

Nora Roberts&#039; trilogies, especially the ones that deal with the paranormal, are all based on thirds: three characters find three spouses and each of the first two books ends in a triumph that contributes to the grand finale in the third book. I find the formula tedious now, but millions love it, and for her it works. 

Thanks Larry. You always get me thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read Adam&#8217;s comment and thought of Harry Potter. His demons change as he moves through puberty and deals with external circumstances that change him &#8211; deaths, traumas etc &#8211; but they all shape his emerging personality and add to the strengths he needs to deal with Voldemort and save two worlds in the finale. He didn&#8217;t have that strength at the beginning because he hadn&#8217;t learned enough and wasn&#8217;t old enough. </p>
<p>The West Wing was great for enjoying character arcs, too. I loved how the main characters evolved as they dealt with a range of personal and public tragedies, humiliations and triumphs.</p>
<p>Nora Roberts&#8217; trilogies, especially the ones that deal with the paranormal, are all based on thirds: three characters find three spouses and each of the first two books ends in a triumph that contributes to the grand finale in the third book. I find the formula tedious now, but millions love it, and for her it works. </p>
<p>Thanks Larry. You always get me thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does character arc apply to a series?

the way i see it, there might be smaller inner demons that will be addressed in each volume, but the major character arc should exist over the whole of the series, or you risk shortchanging your readers at the end, or having the end of the series be anticlimactic because the MC has already completed the character arc.

How would you look at character arc if writing a 3-6 book series about one character?  

Great information in this series, and it has really opened my eyes to what a few of my characters were missing.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does character arc apply to a series?</p>
<p>the way i see it, there might be smaller inner demons that will be addressed in each volume, but the major character arc should exist over the whole of the series, or you risk shortchanging your readers at the end, or having the end of the series be anticlimactic because the MC has already completed the character arc.</p>
<p>How would you look at character arc if writing a 3-6 book series about one character?  </p>
<p>Great information in this series, and it has really opened my eyes to what a few of my characters were missing.  Thanks!</p>
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