Comments on: The Pantser’s Guide to Story Planning – Part Two http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two Novel Writing, Screenwriting and Storytelling Tips & Fundamentals Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:42:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 10 Links: Novel Development – Methods and More « Keri Mathews http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-66002 10 Links: Novel Development – Methods and More « Keri Mathews Sat, 08 Oct 2011 05:33:28 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-66002 [...] Larry Brooks at Story Fix dot com: The Pantser’s Guide to Story Planning, Part 1 and Part 2. Also be sure to check out his Nail Your NaNoWrMo October feature, 31 days of NaNo project [...] [...] Larry Brooks at Story Fix dot com: The Pantser’s Guide to Story Planning, Part 1 and Part 2. Also be sure to check out his Nail Your NaNoWrMo October feature, 31 days of NaNo project [...]

]]> By: Tony McFadden http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-3138 Tony McFadden Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:16:47 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-3138 It's amazing to me how much clearer this makes my writing. I always ALWAYS struggled with the structure. No more. Thanks again. It’s amazing to me how much clearer this makes my writing. I always ALWAYS struggled with the structure.

No more.

Thanks again.

]]> By: Larry http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-2584 Larry Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:46:34 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-2584 @Sierra -- it's important to realize that the "hook" and the first plot point are very different things. Each appears in a designated place within the story sequence, and to adhere to standard principles of storytelling, you really can't mess with them (i.e., "invent" your own structure). The vast majority of published novels and movies prove this to be true. The hook occurs in the first 5% of the story. The first plot point occurs between the 20th and 25th percentile. Each has a different mission and affects the story in different ways. It's a mistake to think that because you have a solid hook, you don't need a plot point at the proper place, that your hook is, in fact the inciting incident. It isn't, and it shouldn't be. Make sure you're clear on the difference, and that you use them both in your story. Hope this helps. @Sierra — it’s important to realize that the “hook” and the first plot point are very different things. Each appears in a designated place within the story sequence, and to adhere to standard principles of storytelling, you really can’t mess with them (i.e., “invent” your own structure). The vast majority of published novels and movies prove this to be true.

The hook occurs in the first 5% of the story. The first plot point occurs between the 20th and 25th percentile. Each has a different mission and affects the story in different ways.

It’s a mistake to think that because you have a solid hook, you don’t need a plot point at the proper place, that your hook is, in fact the inciting incident. It isn’t, and it shouldn’t be. Make sure you’re clear on the difference, and that you use them both in your story. Hope this helps.

]]> By: Sierra Godfrey http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-2583 Sierra Godfrey Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:28:20 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-2583 I've been wondering how to frame these plot points differently. For example, if I have a story that starts with the hook, and then refers back to the first plot point as the thing that propelled the story to the hook, will that ultimately work? I've been playing with that idea and I'm undecided. I’ve been wondering how to frame these plot points differently. For example, if I have a story that starts with the hook, and then refers back to the first plot point as the thing that propelled the story to the hook, will that ultimately work? I’ve been playing with that idea and I’m undecided.

]]> By: Evelyn http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-2515 Evelyn Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:43:01 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-2515 That was a dumb question wasn't it? Sorry! That was a dumb question wasn’t it?

Sorry!

]]> By: Evelyn http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-2514 Evelyn Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:41:00 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-2514 But, but, but... what if you have more "plot points" than that? What if you have three or four? Or more? It's not resticted to only two is it? But, but, but… what if you have more “plot points” than that? What if you have three or four? Or more? It’s not resticted to only two is it?

]]> By: Clint Daniel http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-2492 Clint Daniel Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:44:24 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-2492 Thank you once again for your wise words. Now I believe my story will flow freely on the page, after planning of course, since I now what the major points are. I've yet to regret e-mail listing your blog, for it is a never ending fountain of inspiring knowledge. Once again, thank you. Thank you once again for your wise words. Now I believe my story will flow freely on the page, after planning of course, since I now what the major points are. I’ve yet to regret e-mail listing your blog, for it is a never ending fountain of inspiring knowledge. Once again, thank you.

]]> By: tom http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-2490 tom Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:27:56 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-2490 n amazing series. Thank you for the professional information. Your work is greatly appreciated! n amazing series. Thank you for the professional information. Your work is greatly appreciated!

]]> By: Colleen Shine Phillips http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-2487 Colleen Shine Phillips Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:42:05 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-2487 Hi, Larry. Another great post, of course. I pass on your site to everyone, and especially now, to my panster friends. I have told them all that after reading Story Structure, I am a convert. I have passed over to the "dark side", as I tell them, and am going to structure my next novel. I have restructured the one I am finishing, but of course this is like the zillionth rewrite. Not gonna do that again. Ah, and the structure DOES work with short stories. Thanks! Hi, Larry. Another great post, of course. I pass on your site to everyone, and especially now, to my panster friends. I have told them all that after reading Story Structure, I am a convert. I have passed over to the “dark side”, as I tell them, and am going to structure my next novel. I have restructured the one I am finishing, but of course this is like the zillionth rewrite. Not gonna do that again. Ah, and the structure DOES work with short stories. Thanks!

]]> By: janice | Sharing the Journey http://storyfix.com/the-pantser%e2%80%99s-guide-to-story-planning-%e2%80%93-part-two/comment-page-1#comment-2483 janice | Sharing the Journey Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:28:01 +0000 http://storyfix.com/?p=2190#comment-2483 Gosh, your quote html is a bit dramatic! On most other Thesis themed sites, it just indents the quote! Gosh, your quote html is a bit dramatic! On most other Thesis themed sites, it just indents the quote!

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